In happy news, a wild jolteon was waiting for me in my kitchen one morning this week! It came along quietly with just one razz berry and one ultraball. I also caught my first hitmonlee and second hitmonchan (poor IVs, but they're pretty rare here).
In less happy news, a fellow trainer frustrated me by what I felt was essentially swiping a gym spot out from under me. (Is that a totally okay thing to do, and I'm just being ridiculously overly sensitive? That's possible! I don't know the etiquette.) After errands this Saturday morning, I stopped by an out-of-the-way 7th-level gym at an office park. I spent half an hour training it up to open an 8th spot (lots of potions). About halfway through, a minivan pulled up in the mostly empty parking lot; I didn't think anything of it. As soon as I finally leveled up the gym, though, someone popped in a rapidash. As my jaw dropped at the sight of the rapidash in "my" slot... the minivan drove away. ~sigh~
So while gym sniping is totally possible by the mechanics of the game, it's pretty rude, yeah. I think what makes your situation more terrible is that it was a fellow team member. Where I live, I pretty much always expect Team Instinct to snipe from Valor or Mystic. (It's kind of what they're known for here.)
I think sniping conquered gyms is usually not a big deal. I don't set out to do it, but if I see a gym go grey and I could place something, why not? After all, it's usually not *that* much more work to conquer one more pokemon. And I only do it if I want the stardust reward immediately, or if I think it's funny (mainly if it's being conquered from my team). I don't have time or inclination to sit around all day re-placing a pokemon as soon as an attacker defeats the gym.
But sniping a gym that someone else has levelled *up* feels really nasty. You know that's a LOT of work. And they're supposed to be on the same side as you. I wouldn't always notice -- if I just walk up and there's an empty slot already there, it might just be bad luck I assumed it was free but someone had just made it. But if I saw it just appeared, I'd known someone else had worked for it. Or if I saw someone working and they looked to be my team, I'd let them have the space they'd made. It'd be nicer if that were enforced mechanically -- if you level the gym up, you get first dibs on the spot for N minutes. But I guess it doesn't come up often enough to be a bit priority.
In brightknightie's case, it strikes me a particularly mean because the person in minivan saw that it was being levelled up and then specifically drove over to camp out and wait for that slot to open. And then drove away when they snagged it. Yikes!
Yes! Thanks. It was definitely the "laying in wait" aspect that felt unkind. In a crowd or at a busy location, you can't always tell what's happening, or what people are trying to accomplish.
Thanks. Yes, a system-enforced default minute or two would be nice!
:-) Can multiple people level up a gym, the way multiple people can battle a gym? If so, ideally, it would have been cool if the minivan person had disembarked, walked up and said, "Hey! Playing Pokemon Go Team Valor? Me, too? Let's level up this gym together and make two places!" :-)
I know that you can't always tell whether a gym slot has just now opened up, or whether someone opened one on purpose to help stock up the gym to hold on to it longer. I think that it's the perceived "laying in wait" that... lacked team spirit? :-)
Aw, Jolteons are my favorite eevielutions! I have a small batallion of them.
(Is that a totally okay thing to do, and I'm just being ridiculously overly sensitive?
No, you're not overly sensitive. With high-level gyms, the resources required to level up and open a slot are significant, and so is your interest.
That said, for the same reason, I don't think it's a particular problem with low-level gyms (say, Level 1-3 at a public transit station); I have had those swiped and swiped them myself many times.
I feel like sniping a gym from an opposing team is fair game in *battle*, it's pretty shitty to do that to your own team with training levels! (My other sop to my conscience when I snipe gyms is to land something with low CP in the slot, so that it's easy for my team to level up a spot, and relatively easy for an opposing team to take it back. (My context is that all the gyms near me change hands multiple times an hour, and I've lost the gym in the time between battling-to-zero and getting the menu to post a #mon multiple times, so - in my context this seems ok *for battle*)
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In less happy news, a fellow trainer frustrated me by what I felt was essentially swiping a gym spot out from under me. (Is that a totally okay thing to do, and I'm just being ridiculously overly sensitive? That's possible! I don't know the etiquette.) After errands this Saturday morning, I stopped by an out-of-the-way 7th-level gym at an office park. I spent half an hour training it up to open an 8th spot (lots of potions). About halfway through, a minivan pulled up in the mostly empty parking lot; I didn't think anything of it. As soon as I finally leveled up the gym, though, someone popped in a rapidash. As my jaw dropped at the sight of the rapidash in "my" slot... the minivan drove away. ~sigh~
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I think sniping conquered gyms is usually not a big deal. I don't set out to do it, but if I see a gym go grey and I could place something, why not? After all, it's usually not *that* much more work to conquer one more pokemon. And I only do it if I want the stardust reward immediately, or if I think it's funny (mainly if it's being conquered from my team). I don't have time or inclination to sit around all day re-placing a pokemon as soon as an attacker defeats the gym.
But sniping a gym that someone else has levelled *up* feels really nasty. You know that's a LOT of work. And they're supposed to be on the same side as you. I wouldn't always notice -- if I just walk up and there's an empty slot already there, it might just be bad luck I assumed it was free but someone had just made it. But if I saw it just appeared, I'd known someone else had worked for it. Or if I saw someone working and they looked to be my team, I'd let them have the space they'd made. It'd be nicer if that were enforced mechanically -- if you level the gym up, you get first dibs on the spot for N minutes. But I guess it doesn't come up often enough to be a bit priority.
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Oh, well. :-)
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:-) Can multiple people level up a gym, the way multiple people can battle a gym? If so, ideally, it would have been cool if the minivan person had disembarked, walked up and said, "Hey! Playing Pokemon Go Team Valor? Me, too? Let's level up this gym together and make two places!" :-)
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I know that you can't always tell whether a gym slot has just now opened up, or whether someone opened one on purpose to help stock up the gym to hold on to it longer. I think that it's the perceived "laying in wait" that... lacked team spirit? :-)
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No, you're not overly sensitive. With high-level gyms, the resources required to level up and open a slot are significant, and so is your interest.
That said, for the same reason, I don't think it's a particular problem with low-level gyms (say, Level 1-3 at a public transit station); I have had those swiped and swiped them myself many times.
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